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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Steve obviously has a great deal of time on his hands, I do not. 
Mr. Ayers has never been rehabilitated. The suggestion that his current status of "English Professor" is significant is interesting only in so far as he has moved his revolution from the streets with bombs, to the classroom with books and agitprop. 
Mr. Ayers has simply switched the battle from the streets to the hearts and minds of the youth. The moral confusion of giving a person such as Ayers a platform to "teach" American children is obvious and merits no comment.
For my readers who may be further interested in learning more about this leftist radical please click on the following link.
This is from the August 2001 issue of &lt;em&gt;Chicago Magazine&lt;/em&gt;.
You'll see the lead photo of the piece- Ayers standing on the American flag. 
There is no "rehabilitation" here.
&lt;a href="http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Steve obviously has a great deal of time on his hands, I do not.<br />
Mr. Ayers has never been rehabilitated. The suggestion that his current status of &#8220;English Professor&#8221; is significant is interesting only in so far as he has moved his revolution from the streets with bombs, to the classroom with books and agitprop.<br />
Mr. Ayers has simply switched the battle from the streets to the hearts and minds of the youth. The moral confusion of giving a person such as Ayers a platform to &#8220;teach&#8221; American children is obvious and merits no comment.<br />
For my readers who may be further interested in learning more about this leftist radical please click on the following link.<br />
This is from the August 2001 issue of <em>Chicago Magazine</em>.<br />
You&#8217;ll see the lead photo of the piece- Ayers standing on the American flag.<br />
There is no &#8220;rehabilitation&#8221; here.<br />
<a href="http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Heschel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Heschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so when people do it to the much more sleazy John "I steal money from old people" McCain, bosom buddy of Charles Keating, Nazis, domestic terrorists and KKK  members, it's now called "digging up" stuff--very funny!  HIS RUNNING MATE IS A  DOMESTIC TERRORIST!  Not someone he never met when he was four years old, but HIS RUNNING MATE!

I don't think I am the one with the Messianic Kool Aid drinking glow right now.  You will not lift a finger to examine your own unscholarly approach to this subject at all.

If you want to do a "fact check," I suggest you use the universally well-regarded Fact Check.org, part of the Annenberg Educational Center and fully bi-partisan in its analysis. There you will find the distortions of both candidates.  I have nothing to fear from a true discussion of the issues, but you sure do--that's why you spread this Ayers nonsense. I suggest you go to Factcheck.org and read the debate reviews.  If you do take a serious look at both candidates weaknesses and mistatements, I will listen to your arguments.

Sadly, the mistakes of your spiritual leader, messiah and guru, John McCain, His Holiness, His Excellency, in whom you only see all good things, are there compared to a humble politician named Barack Obama, who made a couple of mistakes in the debate as well.  

As for the "started his career" frame, I offer the following, non-salacious "reality" in response to your ludicrous conspiracy theory that even John McCain is ashamed to mention in Obama's presence.  The New York Times investigated he merits of the story and found:

"– Bill Ayers long ago rehabilitated himself in Chicago, evolving from wild-eyed radical to education activist and English professor. While he’s never been any kind of adviser to Obama, he has advised others."

“He’s done a lot of good in this city and nationally,” Mayor Richard M. Daley said in an interview this week, explaining that he has long consulted Mr. Ayers on school issues. Mr. Daley, whose father was Chicago’s mayor during the street violence accompanying the 1968 Democratic National Convention and the so-called Days of Rage the following year, said he saw the bombings of that time in the context of a polarized and turbulent era. “This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”

"– The get-acquainted coffee at Ayers’ house wasn’t exactly, as the McCain ads say, the place where Obama launched his political career. It was one of a series of such coffees:"

Neither did "– Ayers engineer Obama’s appointment to the board of the Annenberg Challenge," according to the New York Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so when people do it to the much more sleazy John &#8220;I steal money from old people&#8221; McCain, bosom buddy of Charles Keating, Nazis, domestic terrorists and KKK  members, it&#8217;s now called &#8220;digging up&#8221; stuff&#8211;very funny!  HIS RUNNING MATE IS A  DOMESTIC TERRORIST!  Not someone he never met when he was four years old, but HIS RUNNING MATE!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I am the one with the Messianic Kool Aid drinking glow right now.  You will not lift a finger to examine your own unscholarly approach to this subject at all.</p>
<p>If you want to do a &#8220;fact check,&#8221; I suggest you use the universally well-regarded Fact Check.org, part of the Annenberg Educational Center and fully bi-partisan in its analysis. There you will find the distortions of both candidates.  I have nothing to fear from a true discussion of the issues, but you sure do&#8211;that&#8217;s why you spread this Ayers nonsense. I suggest you go to Factcheck.org and read the debate reviews.  If you do take a serious look at both candidates weaknesses and mistatements, I will listen to your arguments.</p>
<p>Sadly, the mistakes of your spiritual leader, messiah and guru, John McCain, His Holiness, His Excellency, in whom you only see all good things, are there compared to a humble politician named Barack Obama, who made a couple of mistakes in the debate as well.  </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;started his career&#8221; frame, I offer the following, non-salacious &#8220;reality&#8221; in response to your ludicrous conspiracy theory that even John McCain is ashamed to mention in Obama&#8217;s presence.  The New York Times investigated he merits of the story and found:</p>
<p>&#8220;– Bill Ayers long ago rehabilitated himself in Chicago, evolving from wild-eyed radical to education activist and English professor. While he’s never been any kind of adviser to Obama, he has advised others.&#8221;</p>
<p>“He’s done a lot of good in this city and nationally,” Mayor Richard M. Daley said in an interview this week, explaining that he has long consulted Mr. Ayers on school issues. Mr. Daley, whose father was Chicago’s mayor during the street violence accompanying the 1968 Democratic National Convention and the so-called Days of Rage the following year, said he saw the bombings of that time in the context of a polarized and turbulent era. “This is 2008,” Mr. Daley said. “People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life.”</p>
<p>&#8220;– The get-acquainted coffee at Ayers’ house wasn’t exactly, as the McCain ads say, the place where Obama launched his political career. It was one of a series of such coffees:&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither did &#8220;– Ayers engineer Obama’s appointment to the board of the Annenberg Challenge,&#8221; according to the New York Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
&gt;If you believe that Obama’s brief association with Ayers.
This will not work.
Obama started his political career in Ayers' living room. I would say that is much more than a "brush".
The case has been made clearly that Obama will not discuss his Columbia days probably because it will demonstrate a much deeper connection with Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. 
(http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjY4YzdhMDBkZGQ3ZmU2MTUzYjdkMzc5ZjUzYmViZWM=)
Obama is a far left as you can get in the Senate. I do not believe his political beliefs are good for the country, I do not believe that his active and ongoing support of a Sharia politician in Kenya qualifies him to be a protector of the Constitution. 
You are welcome to dig up as much as you can on McCain and Palin but McCain and Palin are the better candidates regardless. Even the recent investigation into her "abuse of power" in Alaska by attempting to have someone fired is a red herring. Why? Because even the investigators admit that she was exercising her lawful right as the executive of that state in doing so. It's a non-issue. And, if you delve into the case, it appears perfectly justifiable.
You are so much like the folks on NPR, Steve.
The day after the Belmont debate they had a "fact checking" session.
Host: So, reporter X did you look into Senator McCain's allegation that Senator Obama will fine businesses for not providing health insurance for their employees or parents for not insuring their children, what did you come up with? Is it true?
Reporter X: No, it is absolutely not true. Senator Obama will not fine people for not insuring their children or their employees. The government will assess a fee, though.
And that's you in a nutshell, Steve.
Believe whatever you wish. For you, the Messiah has come and you just can't help but support him. 
He has no accomplishments of moment, and is not forthcoming about his real agenda or his real associations. 
Now that the truth is coming out into the mainstream press, he will have to deal with these matters. 
I would say thank you for your comments but since you choose to use an alias in posting comments here, I will not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
>If you believe that Obama’s brief association with Ayers.<br />
This will not work.<br />
Obama started his political career in Ayers&#8217; living room. I would say that is much more than a &#8220;brush&#8221;.<br />
The case has been made clearly that Obama will not discuss his Columbia days probably because it will demonstrate a much deeper connection with Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.<br />
(http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjY4YzdhMDBkZGQ3ZmU2MTUzYjdkMzc5ZjUzYmViZWM=)<br />
Obama is a far left as you can get in the Senate. I do not believe his political beliefs are good for the country, I do not believe that his active and ongoing support of a Sharia politician in Kenya qualifies him to be a protector of the Constitution.<br />
You are welcome to dig up as much as you can on McCain and Palin but McCain and Palin are the better candidates regardless. Even the recent investigation into her &#8220;abuse of power&#8221; in Alaska by attempting to have someone fired is a red herring. Why? Because even the investigators admit that she was exercising her lawful right as the executive of that state in doing so. It&#8217;s a non-issue. And, if you delve into the case, it appears perfectly justifiable.<br />
You are so much like the folks on NPR, Steve.<br />
The day after the Belmont debate they had a &#8220;fact checking&#8221; session.<br />
Host: So, reporter X did you look into Senator McCain&#8217;s allegation that Senator Obama will fine businesses for not providing health insurance for their employees or parents for not insuring their children, what did you come up with? Is it true?<br />
Reporter X: No, it is absolutely not true. Senator Obama will not fine people for not insuring their children or their employees. The government will assess a fee, though.<br />
And that&#8217;s you in a nutshell, Steve.<br />
Believe whatever you wish. For you, the Messiah has come and you just can&#8217;t help but support him.<br />
He has no accomplishments of moment, and is not forthcoming about his real agenda or his real associations.<br />
Now that the truth is coming out into the mainstream press, he will have to deal with these matters.<br />
I would say thank you for your comments but since you choose to use an alias in posting comments here, I will not.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Heschel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Heschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Unless Obama wins"

This is sad, repeated nonsense.

You refuse to see that you are making nasty, unfounded arguments that are not intellectual and could not stand up in a court of law.  I would never judge McCain on his many terrorist associations but sadly, you have set these terms.  

You ask for documentation and there is more than enough documentation to make far worse and far more glaring cases against John McCain's associations with: 

Latin American death squads through General John Singlaub; Nazi Collabortaors who worked with him when he was part of the U.S. Council on World Freedom; 

It's also easy to make the case for McCain's racism: 

McCain opposed making the birthday of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King a national holiday. During his 2000 campaign for President, he told reporters on his "Straight Talk Express: "I hated the gooks (North Vietnamese). I will hate them as long as I live"; 

McCain's use of the anti-Asian slur "gook" publicly for 27 years before dropping the use for his current Presidential run;
 
McCain's endorsement of George Wallace Jr., a frequent speaker at white supremacist events; 

His vote against establishing a holiday for Martin Luther King's birthday and then another vote to rescind the holiday;
 
In answering a question about divorced fathers and child support, McCain called the children "tar babies";

McCain also hired White Supremacist and Klan supporter, Richard Quinn, to head his campaign in South Carolina in 2000 (By the way, the Ku Klux Klan's terrorist activities far exceed anything perpetrated by the Weather Underground back when Obama was four years old and in Hawaii); 

The details of McCain's "Guilt by association" are so endless and may be easily established by going to google news or by reading a "real" news wires instead of crank websites that report the Ayers flapdoodle.

If you actually believe that the four year old Obama, from his lair in Hawaii, was masterminding terrorist activities with a Chicago-based group of 60s radicals, I am impressed by your attempt to argue absolute silliness.

If you believe that Obama's brief association with Ayers on a panel created by conservative (Reagan Republican) Leonore Annenberg is as signifincant as John McCain's actual participation, as an fully grown adult, in racist/semi-Nazi organizations, I am impressed by you ability to distort reality.

If you think that a brush with an African Shariah activist is as significant as Palin's crazy "end times" Christianity or her actual fear of witches, then I'm shocked that you cannot separate meeting someone from actually believing in something.

If you think that being a member of the Alaskan Secessionist Party and actively trying to undermine the Union AFTER 9/11 is a light activity, then go ahead and vote for Palin.

My advice is for you to choose a candidate based on the issues.  If  you keep the "Guilt by Association" arguments coming, they will backfire on you.   With candidates as compromised as John "I hate Martin Luther King" McCain and Sarah "Abuse of Power/Destroy the Union" Palin, it will be like shooting fish in a barrel for any thinking person to counter these painfully weak and very desperate arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unless Obama wins&#8221;</p>
<p>This is sad, repeated nonsense.</p>
<p>You refuse to see that you are making nasty, unfounded arguments that are not intellectual and could not stand up in a court of law.  I would never judge McCain on his many terrorist associations but sadly, you have set these terms.  </p>
<p>You ask for documentation and there is more than enough documentation to make far worse and far more glaring cases against John McCain&#8217;s associations with: </p>
<p>Latin American death squads through General John Singlaub; Nazi Collabortaors who worked with him when he was part of the U.S. Council on World Freedom; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also easy to make the case for McCain&#8217;s racism: </p>
<p>McCain opposed making the birthday of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King a national holiday. During his 2000 campaign for President, he told reporters on his &#8220;Straight Talk Express: &#8220;I hated the gooks (North Vietnamese). I will hate them as long as I live&#8221;; </p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s use of the anti-Asian slur &#8220;gook&#8221; publicly for 27 years before dropping the use for his current Presidential run;</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s endorsement of George Wallace Jr., a frequent speaker at white supremacist events; </p>
<p>His vote against establishing a holiday for Martin Luther King&#8217;s birthday and then another vote to rescind the holiday;</p>
<p>In answering a question about divorced fathers and child support, McCain called the children &#8220;tar babies&#8221;;</p>
<p>McCain also hired White Supremacist and Klan supporter, Richard Quinn, to head his campaign in South Carolina in 2000 (By the way, the Ku Klux Klan&#8217;s terrorist activities far exceed anything perpetrated by the Weather Underground back when Obama was four years old and in Hawaii); </p>
<p>The details of McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Guilt by association&#8221; are so endless and may be easily established by going to google news or by reading a &#8220;real&#8221; news wires instead of crank websites that report the Ayers flapdoodle.</p>
<p>If you actually believe that the four year old Obama, from his lair in Hawaii, was masterminding terrorist activities with a Chicago-based group of 60s radicals, I am impressed by your attempt to argue absolute silliness.</p>
<p>If you believe that Obama&#8217;s brief association with Ayers on a panel created by conservative (Reagan Republican) Leonore Annenberg is as signifincant as John McCain&#8217;s actual participation, as an fully grown adult, in racist/semi-Nazi organizations, I am impressed by you ability to distort reality.</p>
<p>If you think that a brush with an African Shariah activist is as significant as Palin&#8217;s crazy &#8220;end times&#8221; Christianity or her actual fear of witches, then I&#8217;m shocked that you cannot separate meeting someone from actually believing in something.</p>
<p>If you think that being a member of the Alaskan Secessionist Party and actively trying to undermine the Union AFTER 9/11 is a light activity, then go ahead and vote for Palin.</p>
<p>My advice is for you to choose a candidate based on the issues.  If  you keep the &#8220;Guilt by Association&#8221; arguments coming, they will backfire on you.   With candidates as compromised as John &#8220;I hate Martin Luther King&#8221; McCain and Sarah &#8220;Abuse of Power/Destroy the Union&#8221; Palin, it will be like shooting fish in a barrel for any thinking person to counter these painfully weak and very desperate arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
You sound like a Democrat party hack. 
Accusing McCain of being erratic is about as close as you can get to an NPR/Obama campaign "talking point" as possible.
You prefer Wright, Obama, Farrakhan, and Ayers, and Dohrn to McCain obviously. That is your right. It's still a free country, unless Obama wins. 
You'll be happy to know that Farrakhan declared Obama "the messiah" today. But you already knew that didn't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
You sound like a Democrat party hack.<br />
Accusing McCain of being erratic is about as close as you can get to an NPR/Obama campaign &#8220;talking point&#8221; as possible.<br />
You prefer Wright, Obama, Farrakhan, and Ayers, and Dohrn to McCain obviously. That is your right. It&#8217;s still a free country, unless Obama wins.<br />
You&#8217;ll be happy to know that Farrakhan declared Obama &#8220;the messiah&#8221; today. But you already knew that didn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Heschel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Heschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you are puzzled by comparison, you should know that "guilt by association" was one of the tactics denounced at Nuremberg.  It has also been denounced since the McCarthy era in the U.S.

As for McCain, I suggest you read the AP Newswire's report on McCain's association with General John Singlaub:

"The U.S. Council for World Freedom aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption.

The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league's chairman.

McCain's tie to Singlaub's council is undergoing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Obama for his link to Ayers, a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago. Over the weekend, Democratic operative Paul Begala said on ABC's "This Week" that this "guilt by association" tactic could backfire on the McCain campaign by renewing discussion of McCain's service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, "an ultraconservative right-wing group."

In two interviews with The Associated Press in August and September, Singlaub said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain launched his political career. McCain was elected to the House in 1982.

Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member.

"McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes," Singlaub said. "I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn't left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.

"I don't recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group," Singlaub said.

McCain has said he resigned from the council in 1984 and asked in 1986 to have his name removed from the group's letterhead.

"I didn't know whether (the group's activity) was legal or illegal, but I didn't think I wanted to be associated with them," McCain said in a 1986 newspaper interview.

Singlaub does not recall any McCain resignation in 1984 or May 1986. Nor does Joyce Downey, who oversaw the group's day-to-day activities.

"That's a surprise to me," Singlaub said. "This is the first time I've ever heard that. There may have been someone in his office communicating with our office."

"I don't ever remember hearing about his resigning, but I really wasn't worried about that part of our activities, a housekeeping thing," said Singlaub. "If he didn't want to be on the board that's OK. It wasn't as if he had been active participant and we were going to miss his help. He had no active interest. He certainly supported us."

A news article and two documents tie McCain to the council in 1985, a year after he says he resigned. The group's Internal Revenue Service filing in 1985, covering the previous year, lists McCain as a member of the council's advisory board. In October 1985, a States News Service report placed McCain, Rep. Tom Loeffler, R-Texas, and an Arizona congressman at a Washington awards ceremony staged by the council."

The AP is a conservative leaning Newswire, in case you think this is liberal lies.  

It is most important that you see that McCain was an adult when Singlaub made his death squads in Nicaraugua.  Obama was four years old when Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground.  Had Reagan Rebublican Leonore Annenberg not asked Obama to serve on a panel with Mr. Ayers, he would never have had his brief association, which you have imaginatively colored as evil.

McCain also knows Annenberg:

"Strange Bedfellows: McCain Touts Endorsement by Head of Annenberg Foundation
In John McCain's newest Web ad, he attacks Barack Obama for supporting a "radical education foundation" that gave millions to "idealogical allies" that resulted in scant improvement in the quality of public schools. 

He was referring to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, detailed by my colleagues in this EdWeek story and this sidebar story.

McCain, who has criticized Obama for his ties to William Ayers, one of the founders of Chicago's Annenberg project, is now associating with the very foundation that funded the "radical" work.

His campaign sent out a press release listing all of the former U.S. ambassadors who support him.

On his supporters' list: Leonore Annenberg, 90, who was chief of protocol in the Reagan White House and is the president and chairman of the Pennsylvania-based Annenberg Foundation. She is the widow of Walter H. Annenberg, the late publisher, philanthropist, ambassador, and founder of the Annenberg Challenge."

If you were not lead around by Fox News, you would realize this is all the height of hypocrisy for McCain to condemn Obama for serving on one of Leonore Annenberg's foundation boards.

As for Obama's leadership, I suggest you visit his website and read his platform issues.  His approach to financial crisis, defense, education and the general welfare is far more sound than that of the eratic man of poor character that you are voting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you are puzzled by comparison, you should know that &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; was one of the tactics denounced at Nuremberg.  It has also been denounced since the McCarthy era in the U.S.</p>
<p>As for McCain, I suggest you read the AP Newswire&#8217;s report on McCain&#8217;s association with General John Singlaub:</p>
<p>&#8220;The U.S. Council for World Freedom aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization&#8217;s tax exemption.</p>
<p>The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league&#8217;s chairman.</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s tie to Singlaub&#8217;s council is undergoing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Obama for his link to Ayers, a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago. Over the weekend, Democratic operative Paul Begala said on ABC&#8217;s &#8220;This Week&#8221; that this &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; tactic could backfire on the McCain campaign by renewing discussion of McCain&#8217;s service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, &#8220;an ultraconservative right-wing group.&#8221;</p>
<p>In two interviews with The Associated Press in August and September, Singlaub said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain launched his political career. McCain was elected to the House in 1982.</p>
<p>Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member.</p>
<p>&#8220;McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes,&#8221; Singlaub said. &#8220;I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn&#8217;t left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group,&#8221; Singlaub said.</p>
<p>McCain has said he resigned from the council in 1984 and asked in 1986 to have his name removed from the group&#8217;s letterhead.</p>
<p>&#8220;I didn&#8217;t know whether (the group&#8217;s activity) was legal or illegal, but I didn&#8217;t think I wanted to be associated with them,&#8221; McCain said in a 1986 newspaper interview.</p>
<p>Singlaub does not recall any McCain resignation in 1984 or May 1986. Nor does Joyce Downey, who oversaw the group&#8217;s day-to-day activities.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s a surprise to me,&#8221; Singlaub said. &#8220;This is the first time I&#8217;ve ever heard that. There may have been someone in his office communicating with our office.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t ever remember hearing about his resigning, but I really wasn&#8217;t worried about that part of our activities, a housekeeping thing,&#8221; said Singlaub. &#8220;If he didn&#8217;t want to be on the board that&#8217;s OK. It wasn&#8217;t as if he had been active participant and we were going to miss his help. He had no active interest. He certainly supported us.&#8221;</p>
<p>A news article and two documents tie McCain to the council in 1985, a year after he says he resigned. The group&#8217;s Internal Revenue Service filing in 1985, covering the previous year, lists McCain as a member of the council&#8217;s advisory board. In October 1985, a States News Service report placed McCain, Rep. Tom Loeffler, R-Texas, and an Arizona congressman at a Washington awards ceremony staged by the council.&#8221;</p>
<p>The AP is a conservative leaning Newswire, in case you think this is liberal lies.  </p>
<p>It is most important that you see that McCain was an adult when Singlaub made his death squads in Nicaraugua.  Obama was four years old when Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground.  Had Reagan Rebublican Leonore Annenberg not asked Obama to serve on a panel with Mr. Ayers, he would never have had his brief association, which you have imaginatively colored as evil.</p>
<p>McCain also knows Annenberg:</p>
<p>&#8220;Strange Bedfellows: McCain Touts Endorsement by Head of Annenberg Foundation<br />
In John McCain&#8217;s newest Web ad, he attacks Barack Obama for supporting a &#8220;radical education foundation&#8221; that gave millions to &#8220;idealogical allies&#8221; that resulted in scant improvement in the quality of public schools. </p>
<p>He was referring to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, detailed by my colleagues in this EdWeek story and this sidebar story.</p>
<p>McCain, who has criticized Obama for his ties to William Ayers, one of the founders of Chicago&#8217;s Annenberg project, is now associating with the very foundation that funded the &#8220;radical&#8221; work.</p>
<p>His campaign sent out a press release listing all of the former U.S. ambassadors who support him.</p>
<p>On his supporters&#8217; list: Leonore Annenberg, 90, who was chief of protocol in the Reagan White House and is the president and chairman of the Pennsylvania-based Annenberg Foundation. She is the widow of Walter H. Annenberg, the late publisher, philanthropist, ambassador, and founder of the Annenberg Challenge.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you were not lead around by Fox News, you would realize this is all the height of hypocrisy for McCain to condemn Obama for serving on one of Leonore Annenberg&#8217;s foundation boards.</p>
<p>As for Obama&#8217;s leadership, I suggest you visit his website and read his platform issues.  His approach to financial crisis, defense, education and the general welfare is far more sound than that of the eratic man of poor character that you are voting for.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do seem obsessive on this nazi theme. 
And you are also quite good at missing the point. 
Obama supported Odinga, Odinga supports Sharia law - which part is difficult for you to comprehend?
You make some serious allegations in your response, but offer no evidence. Please send a link to your blog in which you lay out the argument and prove your allegations. Until you do, your comments are just more unsubstantiated balderdash from the left. Also, please do all the readers of this blog a favor by explaining why Mr. Obama is your candidate and why you believe he is qualified to lead? I have done extensive research on this candidate and can find nothing to make the case for his being the better candidate. In fact, since the beginning of his political career in William Ayers' living room, I can find no accomplishments of note despite Sen. Obama's two autohagiographies. If "change" is all you want, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin will certainly supply some for everyone. Guilt by association is exactly the point. The litany of unfortunate and shady associations in Mr. Obama's past and present certainly trumps your unsubstantiated allegations regarding Sen. McCain's associations. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do seem obsessive on this nazi theme.<br />
And you are also quite good at missing the point.<br />
Obama supported Odinga, Odinga supports Sharia law - which part is difficult for you to comprehend?<br />
You make some serious allegations in your response, but offer no evidence. Please send a link to your blog in which you lay out the argument and prove your allegations. Until you do, your comments are just more unsubstantiated balderdash from the left. Also, please do all the readers of this blog a favor by explaining why Mr. Obama is your candidate and why you believe he is qualified to lead? I have done extensive research on this candidate and can find nothing to make the case for his being the better candidate. In fact, since the beginning of his political career in William Ayers&#8217; living room, I can find no accomplishments of note despite Sen. Obama&#8217;s two autohagiographies. If &#8220;change&#8221; is all you want, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin will certainly supply some for everyone. Guilt by association is exactly the point. The litany of unfortunate and shady associations in Mr. Obama&#8217;s past and present certainly trumps your unsubstantiated allegations regarding Sen. McCain&#8217;s associations.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Heschel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Heschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How sad to hear someone who should know better engage in arguments of "guilt by association."  This is something Nazis do.  

Why not mention that John McCain is also tied to Ayers through Ambassador Annenberg?  Or mention that your favored candidate is signifcantly tied to Latin American hit squads, Nazi party members, Ku Kluxers, and Charles Keating?

What's more, the husband of McCain's running mate (and probably Palin herself, though it's been deftly covered up) is a member of the Alaskan secessionist party.

Using your own standard, it is clear we must never be supportive of terrorists like McCain and Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sad to hear someone who should know better engage in arguments of &#8220;guilt by association.&#8221;  This is something Nazis do.  </p>
<p>Why not mention that John McCain is also tied to Ayers through Ambassador Annenberg?  Or mention that your favored candidate is signifcantly tied to Latin American hit squads, Nazi party members, Ku Kluxers, and Charles Keating?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, the husband of McCain&#8217;s running mate (and probably Palin herself, though it&#8217;s been deftly covered up) is a member of the Alaskan secessionist party.</p>
<p>Using your own standard, it is clear we must never be supportive of terrorists like McCain and Palin.</p>
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